Now when was the last time you saw common sense and Democrats in the same sentence? Maybe there is still hope for my old party yet. While I was saying “amen” throughout the stirring speech by Zell Miller at the Republican National Convention last year, the chattering class was mocking ol’ Zell and insinuating that he had lost his mind.
Now, from the ashes of defeat it looks like at least some Democrats are seeing that Zell was not so crazy after all. Least they are saying the same things today that Zell has been trying to get across for years. Go read this article at NRO and tell me if you don’t agree.
Of course, for Republicans this may be cause for some concern. If the Democrats would ever take the necessary steps to become mainstream again, the Republicans might have a run for their money. Obviously this would require the Democratic Party to purge its support of lunatics like Michael Moore, moderate its anti-war views to at least recognize that national security will at times make war necessary, and be willing to acknowldege that folks who think partial birth abortions are infanticide may have a legitimate point of view. Hmm, maybe the Republicans don’t have anything to worry about after all.
As for me, I haven’t changed all that much. I still hold the same beliefs and values I held when I consistently voted for Dems. I just don’t see any Dems lately that share those values. I could be brought back into the fold but calling me an ignorant red stater is not the way to do it.
It should be interesting to see if there are enough thinking Dems left in the party to save it from extinction. I wouldn’t bet on it, but stranger things have happened. Like me voting Republican for example. Proudly I might add.
Hat tip: Instapundit
So you think that people who call partial birth abortion infanticide have a legitimate point of view, meaning that the call to outlaw the procedure is reasonable and should be upheld. Interesting. The term “partial birth abortion” is wildly misleading and designed quite purposefully to inflame emotions. No birth is involved and neither is an infant. A fetus is involved, and yes there is a difference between a fetus and an infant. An infant can survive outside the womb but a fetus cannot. The fetus is partially extracted from the womb, as opposed to the birth process, and the overly enlarged head punctured to collapse the head so the remainder of the fetus can be extracted. The alternative is to dismember the fetus in the womb and extract it in pieces. The danger therein is that the womb may be perforated thus negating the purpose in performing the partial extraction procedure in the first place-to either save the mother’s life or to preserve her ability to have children later by not damaging her reproductive organs. Only a small-minded person would believe that the mother’s life is less important than the fetus she carries. Women are not mere breeding factories. They are people. It always amazes me that a person or people can love their daughters, their wives, their sisters and their mothers but when it comes to some unrelated woman they can deny her the right to have a medical procedure that is based on what is best for her. Remember, this is an uncommon procedure. The Supreme Court in Roe v Wade gave women the right to have an abortion in the first trimester or first three months or first twelve weeks. After that a woman can have an abortion in the second trimester only if her health is endangered. It is utterly heartless for people, especially fathers, to paint such a painful decision is such an ugly manner. Banning the procedure is really about chipping away at a woman’s right to have any abortions ever. Abortion is not an invention of the twentieth century. It has been around as long as women have been having babies. If all life is sacred doesn’t that include the life of a woman or does the life of a women stop being sacred once she conceives? My suggestion is that those women who believe the extraction procedure is infanticide should not have the procedure. Those women, who believe any abortion is wrong, should not have one. Notice I did not include men in the decision making process. Well I don’t think men should have a voice in the matter. When men get pregnant they can join the discussion. Meanwhile, men who really dislike the idea of abortion should not have premarital sex and if they do, they should marry the woman they impregnate, willingly pay child support if the marriage ends and make themselves available to help raise the children whether still married or not. If men do not want children they should get a vasectomy and if the woman they marry happens to lose her ability to have children they should not use that as grounds to divorce her or if she has a child that is handicapped, they should stick around and provide 50% of the support, not just money, that the child will need. They (men) should support adoption programs, including adoption by gay couples, so children do not have to be raised in a series of foster homes and they should lobby just as hard as women for insurance companies to cover the cost of birth control (many do not even though they will cover prescriptions for Viagra) and for the morning after pill to be dispensed over the counter. Beyond that I am afraid I do not believe men should have any say so in the matter. The concept that life is sacred upon conception and should be preserved at all cost, even to the detriment of the mother, is grounded in religion. Let the churches preach it, let those who believe it practice it and let those with a different value system abide my Roe v Wade and the advice of their doctors.
Carol, you obviously have strong feelings about the abortion issue. I’m not going to argue the point, other than to say I see a big difference between abortions that occur early and those that are late term.
My post was about whether the Democrats could display enough common sense to jettison its more extreme left wing positions. I did not say that every Democrat had to advocate a ban on late term abortions, but I did suggest that people like me who have a contrary view should be respected and at least have a voice that is represented in the party.
Your response actually makes my point. The Democrats have lost touch with the values of the majority of Americans. It is fine to stand on principle, but being dismissive of every person who does not agree is not the way to become the majority party.
Thanks for the comment.
No you missed my point even though I specifically spelled it out. As a man, who will never be pregnant, the decision will never be yours to make. It will never be your health, physical or emotional, that is in jeapordy. You will never have to make this decision wieghing the pros and cons of your ability to have children in the future or what is best for the children you already have. You tend to use the most extreme rhetoric in your blogs. It is a real turn off and practically guarantees no honest discussion of the issues can take place. You actualy think you occupy the moral high ground. What a joke. You are just regurgitating hyperbole and tripe while standing in judgement of those with a different opinion than yours. You mock, you taunt and now that you gotten past the hard times of your life, you would deny others the right to make their own decisions. What is American about that? I think you have truely lost touch with what is great about this country. Of course if people like you have your way we will be reduced to little more than a police state and we won’t be so great anymore. You are truely the enemy within.
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