8 thoughts on “A self-fulfilling prophecy”

1. What he said is this is my townhall meeting and it was. He said you aren’t going to tell me how to run my congressional office. The office is his. He was elected. If they do not like the way he runs it then they can vote him out but as of this moment it is his office.

   As for the stated reason for not allowing filming–well he was right. You can’t dispute that.

2. Beg to differ. Of course it can be disputed, is disputed and was disputed.

   What’s this guy afraid of?

   So what if they end up on YouTube, as this one did, despite his rules and desires……if he didn’t step in it and watched his mouth he wouldn’t have anything to worry about.

   Further, it isn’t his congressional office, it’s his constituents office. They own it and they hire him to occupy it. If they don’t like the way it’s done or object to his activities or want to film his activities it’s their right to do so, to among other things, hold him accountable for his actions, his words and his behavior, which in this case was necessary obviously because he not only stepped in it, he tried to forbid them gathering evidence of him doing so.

   This guy is a perfect example of the arrogance of elected office and needs to be thrown out on his ear.

   Then we have people commenting on this board that he was right……my goodness, my goodness, my goodness…………..gimme a break here.

   What the holy hell has become of our country?

   This guy is as bad as the woman congresswoman in California a couple days ago who was recorded and filmed saying it was beneath the dignity of her office to answer a question she didn’t like.

   Same behavior, same story.

   Throw the bums out, IMO.

   Let them get a job and work for a living for awhile……..like the rest of us.

3. Excuse me? He said I do not allow filming because they tend to end up on Youtube and he was right! How the heck do you dispute that?!!

   And yes it is his office. He is the holder of the office. The fact that he was elected to the office by the people does not make the office theirs. They get to choose who will hold office and hopefully they get to know the candidates positions before they cast their vote but make no mistake once in office he can pretty much ignore the will of the people. He is the one who will be making decisions that affect their governance and that dear friend is how it has always been. If they do not like what he is doing they can vote him out or impeach him if his actions veer into the criminal, but for now they voted him in and it is his office.

4. Yes, certainly excuse the hell out of you, yet again. And no, it isn’t his office.

   This guy has temporary custody of the office only. He was elected by those people to represent them and he is not doing so, he is trying to shield himself from criticism at their expense and manipulating the circumstances of the town-hall to prevent being held accountable, via YouTube or anywhere else. But guess what – his ploy didn’t work and he made it to YouTube anyway – lets see how he likes that.

   He might be temporarily able to pull such a stunt but he deserves to have the stage, microphone and dais pulled down and trashed by the crowd for doing so, IMO, and maybe then he would learn the price of his arrogance from the experience. In any case, I’d bet money he doesn’t try it again. More likely he won’t hold further town-hall meetings. Great solution, but probably typical., with noted sarcasm intended.

   Normally reasonable, in this case maybe more likely unreasonable minds can disagree. But I’ll say it again, it is not his office, it belongs to his constituents, period. Thankfully all of this gaming by these elected jerks is finally being called out and taken to task. If things go like they should and seem to be shaping up to, by appearances, it is going to be a great experience watching these arrogant bums get tossed out on their asses next year.

   He might be able to get away with the arrogance for a little while longer but even that is in question given unfolding events, and in the end, very hopefully and very rightfully, he’ll be toast.

5. Arrogant and a dumbass. I am not exactly sure how a video can be in a compromising position…next to Bush? Under Obama? Listed after some bikini girls?

   Excuse me? He said I do not allow filming because they tend to end up on Youtube and he was right! How the heck do you dispute that?!!

   “Usually the films that are done…end up on youtube in a compromising position”

   I will give him the benefit of the doubt and interpret the meaning as “out of context”. However, the video seems to provide all necessary context which definitely does not make him right.

6. Okay you have now admitted to at least the fact that he has custody of the office albeit temporarily. Let’s start from there.

   He does not want his meetings with the public filmed. This is a meeting where he meets with his constituients hears there concerns, answers their questions and informs them of things going on in Washington. If he decides not hold anymore of these types of meetings who wins? Certainly not his constituents.

   As it happens he is a blue dog democrat. The girl asking the question is in support of health care reform. No doubt he did not want his response to be used as ammunition to the other side of the debate especially since as we all know films and recordings can be edited and all context removed.

   This is not a case of a lack of transparency. To hear what he had to say all you had to do was show up.

   Perhaps my opinion in this matter is influenced by the fact that I am a government employee. We have strict rules that meetings cannot be recorded-taped or filmed. Any employee violating that rule can be disciplined. So establishing a no filming rule seems pretty much par for the course to me.

7. Good points, Fortunate.

   And agree, completely, Goat, I think.

   And further, regarding the venue and rules, I thought freedom of speech as a primary tenet of this country. And in any case, a town-hall meeting is not a meeting of a group of government employees and even if it were…. since when did elected officials follow the rules everyone else has to live by (note the vetting process absent in any administration for appointing the so-call Czar’s, versus the vetting rules for the similarly ranked government employee, for one wild example)?

   Yes, and tI agree, emporary is all he has custody for.

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   Correction to earlier post: the female representative who refused to answer questions in a town-hall meeting, citing it was beneath the ‘dignity of her office’ was Louise Slaughter, D/NY (way upstate).

8. We need to start lining up the democrats and shooting hem. Freedom isn’t free and there are going to be a few broken eggs if we want freedom.

   A “bluedog” democrat is as good as a child molester that only rapes some children.

   He is the scum of the earth.